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Comment by Al Lanier on April 10, 2012 at 12:32pm

Acting workshops are part of what I call the Acting Industrial Complex which is designed to seperate aspiring and want-to-be actors from their money by playing on their desire and passion for the craft of acting.

Workshops are just one of the pitfalls of being in this business. Its nice to think that people should share their experience for the good of the profession but it just doesnt work that way. Hollywood is built on making as much money as It can from people and these workshops are no different. They fall under the "No money, no honey" rubric.

AS for people telling people if they want to make it as actors, they need to leave Hawaii, well this is just common sense. Its nothing new. I know actors who plan to make the trip to LA and I can't tell them not to do it if they are serious about making a living from film and TV work.

However, I do agree that is has long been since time for people in this industry here to put up or shut up. I have only been an actor for over a year and I just cant understand the kinds of attitudes I encounter here in this industry.

For the life of me I dont understand why we arent creating and producing SAG Indie feature length films here in Hawaii. Say what you want about films like GET A JOB and ONE KINE DAY--at least those filmmakers sucked it up and made feature length films that got screened.At least these guys got their films made. They deserve respect for that alone.

Here's what we need-a local funding mechanism that funds films made by LOCAL FILMMAKERS. Not simply tax breaks for Hollywood films.

We need to allow filmmakers the access to capital they can use to fully fund locally-made films and hire local actors who will get PAID for their work-not this lunch and DVD nonsense.

If people serious about the film industry here, then start supporting it by giving it the financial and creative infratsructure It needs. Until that happens, it will be lack of business as usual.

Comment by Hawaii Film Industry on April 10, 2012 at 11:40am

I think we should really give these acting classes and workshop a close look before allowing them to take advantage of our Hawaii actors.

Comment by Gina Surles on April 10, 2012 at 10:50am

Yes, heard about it from HAN.  It is apparent they posted on every group.  Yes, they should pay some kind of fee for advertising, I agree.  Feedback would be a good thing because others can see our comments.  I googled to find info on this workshop and on NDP but I couldn't really find anything.

Comment by Roger Garrett on April 10, 2012 at 10:40am

I'm curious, did you find out about that acting workshop through a posting or emailing from HAN? I've noticed a number of such postings on HAN in the past, and they often come to us through the various groups on HAN, such as the Hawaii-50 group or the Battleship group. I think it would be good policy for HAN to set up a specific group for classes and other advertisments (and prohibit them on any other group). That way only those members who want to receive such offers will get them. In addition, I think HAN should charge those companies for posting their advertising notices. It would provide some income to HAN to help pay for this site and for all the other services that HAN provides to its membership. And finally, I think HAN should provide some feedback or rating mechanism, so that members can let others know how effective the classes, etc. were and whether they got value for their money.

Comment by Gina Surles on April 10, 2012 at 10:21am

Please be careful of the workshops you choose.  I attended the recent Jane Jenkins “5-hour acting intensive” workshop, organized by Next Dimension Productions (NDP).  I don’t know if everyone realizes it but many of us, in the Sunday class at least, did not get what was advertised in NDP’s announcement:

 

What You'll Learn at The Workshop:

1. Audition technique for feature films.


2. What a feature film casting director looks for and insider tips.


3. How to stand out on camera and GET the CALLBACK.


4. The audition, the callback, the producers session, how to approach each.     

BUT, MOST IMPORTANT, EACH PARTICIPANT WILL HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL

EVALUATION FROM JANE HERSELF.”

 

That last line, promising some type of personal feedback or criticism from Ms. Jenkins on the scenes we were to prepare, clinched my decision to pay the expensive $200 fee and sign up. 

 

The workshop was hardly an “acting intensive” – our crowded class, around 28 of us, listened to an informative lecture/Q&A and watched about six of the scenes before we took a half hour lunch break. We also received some “coaching” from the NDP staff.  My “coach” yawned throughout reading with me and commented that I was obviously prepared.  Regarding the four points above, only #2 was covered.  I don’t recall discussion of #1 or #3, and in #4, “…the callback, the producers session, how to approach each,” was never brought up.

 

For the remaining two hours after lunch, we watched all the other scenes or presented our own. Maybe half the class did receive some direction from Ms. Jenkins and performed their scenes again.   I was among those who did not receive any evaluation.  Not one word.  I wanted to ask for feedback but I didn’t want to appear rude or cut into someone else's time because we were running late.  Besides my own disappointment, I felt bad for the people who flew in from Kauai and Maui and also barely received a few words about their scene.  I was glad to see we came prepared and memorized, ready to "represent," and truly caring about making a good impression.

 

I’m grateful when someone like Ms. Jenkins visits the islands, and I look forward to learning from them.  In this instance, however, I question the integrity of NDP and the people they are presenting around the U.S. and Canada.  It seemed like their goal was simply to pack us in and get as much money as possible without responsibility to actually give us what they said they would.  I question their true reason for coming here.  I know I’ll be more careful of “experts” soliciting for our participation in the future, especially for these high-priced, one-day workshops.

Comment by Paulette Pearson on February 23, 2012 at 2:52pm

Hi Snoopy, Teddy and Roger, I'm a new kid on the block, so I would like to know when and where the prior mixers were?  Would you mind posting that info?  Thank you, Aloha.

Comment by Kekoaokekoolau Lyu on February 23, 2012 at 1:35pm

For the next mixer we'll just put a cover charge at the door for everyone to pay to get in.. Then that why you have a reason to critique because you actually put something into it..

Comment by Kekoaokekoolau Lyu on February 23, 2012 at 11:30am

Roger nothing was deleted but thank you for re-posting all of your negative comments and displaying exactly what i was taking about. Again, if you have not contributed anything not a penny of your money or second of your time towards the mixer keep your negative comments to yourself.

Comment by Teddy Wells on February 23, 2012 at 11:20am

@ Roger Garret,

        I thank You for your input and your concern for the HAN mixers. It's very hard to explain any cost and amount of effort it takes to do a mixer to someone that's never done so. That's totally understandable. All I can say that when you set up the next mixer ALL of your questions will be answered by just doing it. Many factors will automatically come soooo clear. Promise.

We welcome others to do as many mixers as they desire, as often as they desire. Members are welcome to use this wonderful tool for the announcement of their mixers. We look forward to the next mixer put together by our Hawaii Actors.

Can we move on from all that was wrong or not liked about the last mixer to how much fun and better the next mixer will be?

If we're not getting better then what are we getting?

Remember this network was put together for Hawaii's actors to be empowered to rejuvenate Hawaii's film industry making it a better environment for EVERYONE.

Comment by Roger Garrett on February 23, 2012 at 10:52am

I'm not sure whether I should be delighted or furious over the fact that a whole slew of comments in this thread were just deleted, making it look like the conversation was just one big happy sequence.

I attended the recent mixer, but it didn't seem like much of a mixer. Too crowded, too loud, no real opportunity to mix and meet and mingle and network. The band was great, but that's not what a mixer is all about. Several members sitting near me commented on the same thing. So I did the right thing and let the organizers know how the mixer was received and, more importanly, offered some suggestions as to how they could be made better.

For doing that I was roundly criticized. I was told I shouldn't compain since I had no hand in origanizing the mixer. The fact is, there was never any request for assistance in organizing this or any previous mixer, and no one knows about an upcoming mixer until it is announced.

In addition, over the past year or so, there have been several times where I have suggested that mixers be started up again. There were an initial three monthly mixers which were excellent and provided a lot of opportunity to network with our fellow actors, directors, talent agency reps, etc. But then they stopped. Each time that I encouraged HAN to schedule some more mixers I was told that it was expensive and they needed sponsorship. I repeatedly asked what the expenses were but never got a response. I repeatedly pointed out that bars are more than happy to have any group have a mixer or other event at their location and that they charge nothing for it, since they make lots of money from the food and drinks that are bought. But no response from HAN. I suggested asking for volunteers to work on setting up mixers. No response.

So when this last Mixer was announced it looked like things were finally back on track. But the venue choice turned out not to be the optimum place to hold a mixer. And as pointed out above, I was not the only one who was disappointed with it. So I made some suggestions. And the response was basically to shoot the messenger. One response accused me of "creating excuses and deferring attention" and suggested that I "man up and create a mixer yourself", accusing me of "not contributing to the last mixer".

The  fact is I never said or implied that I, personally, could do a better job of organizing/hosting mixers. And I never offered to do that. My suggestion was that, with the more than 5,000 members, surely there were SOME people who would step forward to help out. I suggested that a request bve sent out to the entire membership, not just those in the HAT and not just those in the Mixer Group, but to the whole membership.

Apparently, someone took it upon themselves to send out that suggestion (the actual suggestion, NOT a properly written request for volunteers, but essentially a cut-and-paste of my suggestion) and sent it out to the entire membership, and SIGNED MY NAME TO IT, as though it came directly from me. So, I guess it's good that finally some other people can get involved in organizing mixers.

But this whole sequence of events is incredibly dis-heartening. HAN is a very valuable resource for Hawaii's actors. I made some suggestion for making HAN even better. And I was roundly criticized and insulted for doing so. And then the whitewash of deleting most of the postings.

If HAN is truly "all about YOU, the members" as we are often reminded, then LISTEN to the members and take the suggestions as they are intended, to make HAN as good as it can possibly be.

 

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